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We always idealize the past because we don’t feel the painful stuff the way we used to.

Ben Gibbard

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We had cut ourselves free from the security of day-job life. The goals became primarily financial, at least for a while. That was the roughest time we had ever had as a band, because that was the first moment we realized that this was for real.

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We had cut ourselves free from the security of day-job life. The goals became primarily financial, at least for a while. That was the roughest time we had ever had as a band, because that was the first moment we realized that this was for real.
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Band Lease Primarily
I want so badly to believe that there is truth, that love is real. And I want life in every word to the extent that it’s absurd.

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I want so badly to believe that there is truth, that love is real. And I want life in every word to the extent that it’s absurd.
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Real
Bands who are in their early 20s today, they are living in their own time and they have a series of parameters they have to work around.

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Bands who are in their early 20s today, they are living in their own time and they have a series of parameters they have to work around.
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Real
As a songwriter, I’m not necessarily writing about myself or my life.

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As a songwriter, I’m not necessarily writing about myself or my life.
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Songwriters
Every record we do there are always two camps. There’s the camp that’s like, “I love it. It sounds different than the last one.”
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Healthy
I feel like on those older records there are a lot of attempts at clever turns of phrase.

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I feel like on those older records there are a lot of attempts at clever turns of phrase.
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Attempts Older Record The Phrase
I don’t want to be overdramatic about it, but I’m starting to see a lot of my bad habits get the best of me.

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I don’t want to be overdramatic about it, but I’m starting to see a lot of my bad habits get the best of me.
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Starting
I’d like the songs to be more storytelling, but also have the turns of phrase within them that would hopefully distance my writing from the pack.
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Distance Hopefully Storytelling
I think sometimes a narrative can come out of a single word.

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I think sometimes a narrative can come out of a single word.
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Narrative Sometimes
Hall & Oates is one of the few musical groups as satisfying now as it was back then. There’s something incredibly musically satisfying about their songs. Nothing has diminished my love for them.

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Hall & Oates is one of the few musical groups as satisfying now as it was back then. There’s something incredibly musically satisfying about their songs. Nothing has diminished my love for them.
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Musical
I just rediscovered my guitar.

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I just rediscovered my guitar.
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Guitar Rediscover
And it came to me then that every plan is a tiny prayer to father time.

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And it came to me then that every plan is a tiny prayer to father time.
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Tiny
A lot of the material is about the inevitable disappointment people feel as they move through life, and things don’t feel the way they expect. No experience will ever match up to the idealized version in your mind.

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A lot of the material is about the inevitable disappointment people feel as they move through life, and things don’t feel the way they expect. No experience will ever match up to the idealized version in your mind.
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Moving
I don’t think I was doing anything poorly at that time, but I can certainly see how my writing has changed.
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Certainly Changed Think
I’ve always had a soft spot for Phil Collins. He’s a great vocalist.

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I’ve always had a soft spot for Phil Collins. He’s a great vocalist.
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Spots Vocalist
You spend hours alone, only with your thoughts, and you torture yourself. It’s a tendency of many writers to temper the self-destructive act of writing with other self-destructive acts. I certainly was one of those people for a long time.

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You spend hours alone, only with your thoughts, and you torture yourself. It’s a tendency of many writers to temper the self-destructive act of writing with other self-destructive acts. I certainly was one of those people for a long time.
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Long Self

We always idealize the past because we don’t feel the painful stuff the way we used to.

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