So to pick and choose that once you come to Christ you’re never going to struggle in those areas again or never fall prey to stumbling in those ways again, I just, I don’t think we can assure that.
ALAN CHAMBERSI am eternally secure. I gave my heart to Christ and that gift of salvation is irrevocable.
More Alan Chambers Quotes
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Within the membership we have 270 or so members within the network of Exodus whether that’s a local member ministry, a counselor or one of our members of our church association.
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I think we’ve made it a golden idol. I think we in the church have treated it differently than we’ve treated anything else.
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A reparative therapist called me and said if you’ll come into therapy with me I can cure you of your temptations and attractions 100 percent.
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Certainly if someone looks at my life, they will see that I have surrendered my heart, my life to Jesus Christ.
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But it doesn’t say anywhere in that passage that the people didn’t still struggle with temptation or that they never fell prey to that sin again whether it was the issue of homosexuality or any of the other things that are listed there.
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I believe in sanctification at the point of salvation. That doesn’t mean that we don’t continue to mature as believers in Christ. But I believe that we are justified and we are sanctified.
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The ones that are running rampant within our churches largely go unaddressed.
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Now on to reparative therapy, I think counseling is a wonderful tool for anybody regardless of what struggle they bring to the table.
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Exodus is a very large organization. My board of directors is supportive of me as the president of Exodus and are very much involved in my decision-making and those types of things.
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I’m grateful for people’s opinions but I choose to surrender and to serve Christ and Christ alone and in that my life has changed.
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Through biblical community in their local church, through honesty and transparency, sharing what it is that troubles them, being accountable.
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For someone to promise a percentage type cure for this issue, for instance I had someone who said they had experienced a 90 percent permanent.
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I think it’s for me with regards to this issue I believe in justification at the point of salvation.
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I think we have to do a better job than we’ve done. So I do think there is, people rush to judgment and rush to clarify their point on this issue in ways that they don’t’ rush to judgment and to clarity on other issues.
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I’ll be very glad to tell them what my faults and my weaknesses are and the areas that I pray about in my life every day.
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I am pursuing Christ wholeheartedly 100 percent. I don’t need a theologian or a set of man-made beliefs to guide me in my daily life.
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We’ve made it bigger; the resolution for this needs to be bigger than for other people.
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For some that will mean getting the help or expertise of a counselor that can help them walk through and navigate through some of the traumatic things that they’ve been through in their life.
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I’m not saying that people should live in unrepentant sin. I’m not saying that that’s a mark of a mature believer at all.
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Issues of pride and judgment and gossip and slander and other types of sexual immorality, gluttony, you name it.
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We will all struggle, we will all fall prey to some type of sin, some will fall prey to the same types of sin over and over again.
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Would Rob Gagnon and other people make as big a deal about that as they are with this? I don’t think so.
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How can we quantify that? How can you even know that that’s what you have experienced? And what if at some point you fall to 85 percent or 70 percent?
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But sin resides, the power of sin resides in our flesh. It will always try us and it was always tempt us and therefore we always need to be submitting our mind, will and emotions to the lordship of Jesus Christ.
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Or any other thing – are those people in danger of losing their salvation over those issues?
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But when it comes to someone pointing to this passage and saying homosexuals changed, well, I’m not sure that’s what that passage is referring to.
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