“I’m not saying that people should live in unrepentant sin. I’m not saying that that’s a mark of a mature believer at all.”

I’m looking at offering biblical holiness, not an unrealistic expectation for people that will leave them disappointed.

But to say that people who have same-sex attractions are the only group of people who need to go to a therapist to completely resolve those attractions isn’t something I find biblically accurate.

I think, again, if someone wants to know what I believe then look at my life.

Someone’s always calling for my resignation. It’s nothing new.

I think it’s hypocritical and inconsistent for us to attack this one group of people over any other group of people that are within our churches today.

Let me be clear that I’m not God so I can’t tell you who is and isn’t going to heaven.

I am opposed to special rights for gays just as I am opposed to special rights for heterosexuals or smokers.

Now on to reparative therapy, I think counseling is a wonderful tool for anybody regardless of what struggle they bring to the table.

Within the membership we have 270 or so members within the network of Exodus whether that’s a local member ministry, a counselor or one of our members of our church association.

It’s something that’s been part of my tenure at Exodus over the last decade plus.

When I said on national television I still struggle.

It says in this world you will have trouble in John 16:33 but take heart you can have peace in me because I’ve overcome the world.

I believe in sanctification at the point of salvation. That doesn’t mean that we don’t continue to mature as believers in Christ. But I believe that we are justified and we are sanctified.

The point that I’m trying to make is that we as believers can have security in Christ when we are believers.

For some that will mean getting the help or expertise of a counselor that can help them walk through and navigate through some of the traumatic things that they’ve been through in their life.

I’ll be very glad to tell them what my faults and my weaknesses are and the areas that I pray about in my life every day.

I know Christ. And that is secure. And I think that is something that actually helps believers pursue his holiness.

But we will encourage the church to do that in general for anyone and everyone who’s seeking to be a mature believer in Christ.

Someone wrote a Wikipedia entry about me, identifying me as an atheist because I’d said in a book I wrote that I wasn’t a believer.

One day, though, I realized I was no longer a believer, and realizing that, I couldn’t go back.

I’m not a believer in luck, but I do believe you need it.

As an atheist, I think there are lots of things religions get up to which are of value to non-believers – and one of those things is trying to be a bit better than we normally manage to be.

A believer is someone who senses a consciousness or a direction and believes in it. The one who searches for meaning has not found the direction yet.

Believers in political faith-healing enjoy a supreme immunity from doubt.