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Now on to reparative therapy, I think counseling is a wonderful tool for anybody regardless of what struggle they bring to the table.
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I know Christ. And that is secure. And I think that is something that actually helps believers pursue his holiness.
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I believe the gay community is a good group of people but with groups like NAMBLA [a pedophile group] riding on their coattails.
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I think, again, if someone wants to know what I believe then look at my life.
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Exodus will do that for people who come to us for help.
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I’m looking at offering biblical holiness, not an unrealistic expectation for people that will leave them disappointed.
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It’s about pursuing a relationship with Christ.
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I am pursuing Christ wholeheartedly 100 percent. I don’t need a theologian or a set of man-made beliefs to guide me in my daily life.
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Would Rob Gagnon and other people make as big a deal about that as they are with this? I don’t think so.
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If we were talking about one of their sin issues we wouldn’t have addressed this at all. I find that hypocritical and inconsistent.
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I think we can all use a little bit of counseling on planet earth today. But when it comes to reparative therapy.
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But when it comes to someone pointing to this passage and saying homosexuals changed, well, I’m not sure that’s what that passage is referring to.
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But we will encourage the church to do that in general for anyone and everyone who’s seeking to be a mature believer in Christ.
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We’ve made it bigger; the resolution for this needs to be bigger than for other people.
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In all caps PERMANENT – reduction of their same-sex attraction.
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And that’s a wonderful thing and that’s what we will always offer at Exodus.
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I find it a golden idol, honestly, where we have been hypocritical to ask people to resolve this issue in a way that we haven’t encouraged other people with other struggles to resolve.
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Let me be clear that I’m not God so I can’t tell you who is and isn’t going to heaven.
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I can attest to the fact that sexual orientation is not immutable and I urge the city council to vote no on this amendment.
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For some that will mean getting the help or expertise of a counselor that can help them walk through and navigate through some of the traumatic things that they’ve been through in their life.
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Issues of pride and judgment and gossip and slander and other types of sexual immorality, gluttony, you name it.
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I think it’s for me with regards to this issue I believe in justification at the point of salvation.
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How can we quantify that? How can you even know that that’s what you have experienced? And what if at some point you fall to 85 percent or 70 percent?
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t’s really an encouragement of discipleship, it looks like anything else that we’re offering to anyone else, any other person struggling with any other issue in their life.
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I’m not saying that people should live in unrepentant sin. I’m not saying that that’s a mark of a mature believer at all.
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So he can add his voice to the chorus of others whether it’s gay activists or now a New Testament professor.
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I think we’ve made it a golden idol. I think we in the church have treated it differently than we’ve treated anything else.
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