“We’ve always been trying to climb this ladder that leans so hard on our own idea of what our big songs are. We realized recently that we’re not a band with big songs.”

There’s political content in almost every song we’ve ever written on some level. It colors everything.

Everybody knows we’re big liberals and I was a very outspoken Hillary Clinton supporter, and I still am. It’s impossible for us to separate the songs we’re writing from what’s going on in the world.

Writing lyrics with your wife does lead to talking about yourselves a lot. But this is not an autobiographical account of my personal marriage. It’s almost about the marriage of the band.