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And where does magic come from? I think that magic’s in the learning.

Dar Williams

Through the last days of the century And I knew that I was going to learn again Again, in this less hazy light I saw the fields beyond the fields The fields beyond the field
DAR WILLIAMS

Again Beyond Century Field Learn
You fly all over the country opening for these other people. You pay a publicist to get some press while you’re establishing yourself and you will be solvent in this career forevermore.
DAR WILLIAMS

Carer Extra Fly Layer Publicist
A lot of the songs are pretty unmasked. If you listen to “As Cool As I Am,” it’s not all that different from what you were hearing from Ani DiFranco and some of the other indie women artists of the time. It was still in that context, still seen as folk music.
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Artist Different Song
Women were making more money. Women were saying, “My voice counts. If we’re going out on a Friday night, I don’t want to see a Rambo movie. I want to go see a singer/songwriter who sings about my life”.
DAR WILLIAMS

Friday Night Songwriter Women
Choices you made about how you recorded and what instruments you used and how much real versus how much synthetic. Those were choices that were seen as very political at the time.
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Choice Make Political Time
The light that stopped the night felt like forgiveness.
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Light Night Revenge
When we learn about ourselves, we can evolve.
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Bout Evolve Ourselves
I really value people besides parents who nurture kids.
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Kids Parent People
I went from having three little jobs that I strung together to being on the road full-time; having some savings that my managers told me to spend.
DAR WILLIAMS

Career Country Jobs
[Mortal City ] was also the beginning of the reality of the fact that I was going to have little pieces of my personality identifying with all of these different parts of the country.
DAR WILLIAMS

Cities Country Reality
I would push for more production and Steve Miller would say, “Why do you want to have more production when you have real songs? You don’t want to cover up the song.”
DAR WILLIAMS

Cover Real Song Up
There was one tour where I thought, “If I can’t get this feeling back of being excited to be on the stage, then I will quit.” Because I have friends who have dialed it in and I watch their concerts and shake my head. I’m sure the audience can tell, too.
DAR WILLIAMS

Dialed Feelings Quitting Watches
I came out of that and said I don’t want to go back to feeling depressed. So I asked myself, what can I be optimistic about, in terms of the course of the planet? And I discovered there was no end to the optimism I felt.
DAR WILLIAMS

Discover Feelings Optimism Optimistic
Things are important to you and then they recede within a day. That’s the only thing that keeps me from believing that there’s going to be any one organic big wave; although the Americana (music) thing has been happening for a while.
DAR WILLIAMS

Believing Country Important Music Things
At this point, I feel like I have roots in a lot of places. I have friends who have put down roots, in Seattle and San Francisco and Portland, and I feel very close to them.
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Country People Portland Roots
And I’ll act like I have faith, and like that faith never ends, but I really just have friends.
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Ends Faith Friend Have

And where does magic come from? I think that magic’s in the learning.

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