“It’s crazy to think of myself as a musician. It’s ridiculous that I get to do it, and I don’t necessarily mean music. Getting to do something you really enjoy as a job is an incredible privilege, I think. I still don’t really feel like a musician outside of the actual music.”

Other [artists’] music is really what you get most inspiration from, whether consciously or subconsciously. I like a lot of old music and a lot of soul music. I also really like a lot of new stuff.

I definitely would love to transition into being more of a writer at some point in my career. I love playing shows and traveling, but I also love writing for other people, and that’s something I’m investing my time in more when I’m home.

Life is not the mountaintops, it’s the walking in between.

I have learned that you’re not perfect, and that sometimes the one you love can burn you. But it’s just the fool that’s looking backwards: a bitter heart turns the love we made to ashes.

I never knew that I could love someone the way that I love you.

I really value the freedom I have as a Christian that’s an artist but not necessarily a Christian artist. I think it can be hard to express certain things about faith when there are a pretty specific set of expectations around what you need to talk about and how you’re talking about it.

Recording can be enjoyable, but the hard thing is that you don’t get any direct or immediate feedback like you do when you play live. Getting to see people’s excitement and see them engage in the show makes me excited to get back out and play.

Most people who work with me can tell you I’m a bit of a pessimist about business stuff. Not because I don’t believe in what I’m doing, I just don’t like feeling presumptuous. Like, ‘This is what’s going to happen!’ Honestly, I don’t know what will happen.

no job is a good job if it isn’t good for you.

Healing is an inside job.

I think we’ve made it a golden idol. I think we in the church have treated it differently than we’ve treated anything else.

On every level, despite differences in personalities and jobs

I think ultimately what you really want is a few people within any label that are into the band enough to really work on it every day for a long time and to actually try a little bit.

That’s our job – to strap rockets onto everything.

I’m a lifelong movie addict, and one of my favorite projects is making replica props and costumes.

At 15 I auditioned for 42nd Street in Australia. Dein Perry was in that show. I actually got the job but I couldn’t do it because I was only 15. Legally I needed to have another 15-year-old to cover consecutive nights.