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We pretend that everything that has happened happened long ago, and then we act as if we all now just treat each other equally, everything will be fine.

Ben H. Winters

We think, “Well, what are you gonna do?” In a way, that little instinct, that “What are you gonna do?” is the most dangerous thing in the world.
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Dangerous Instinct Little Think Way
Our political divides have become our personal divides.
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Become Divide Personal Political
In terms of optimism, I am optimistic. I do think that, in the long term, that America will right itself. I have to think so.
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Country Optimistic Thinking
We spend so much time, these days, on forms of literature that don’t rise to be literature, and I’m speaking about Twitter posts and quick and hot takes on different websites. We sort of zoom from thing to thing like a hummingbird.
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Different Hot Post Zoom
That one lesson that African American communities have learned over the centuries in America is that you can’t just take for granted that things will steadily get better and better and better until they’re great. It is fits and starts. It is backward and forward.
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Community Country Get Better
There is no shortage of ways that people profit indirectly from the misery and cruelty in other places. Even now, the shirts we wear and the tomatoes we eat. There are unfortunately unfair and inhumane conditions – including literal slavery – all over the world.
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People Slavery World
It is really something, the extent to which we allow ourselves to live without thinking of things that we know, in the abstract, are bad, and are going on right now, somewhere far away.
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Away Far Thinking World
It must be that there is something in the hearts of human beings, some natural fluid perhaps, that insists on happiness, even confronted with the most powerful arguments against it.
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Argument Heart Powerful
I think that, we as a culture, feel like politics is one sector of our lives that can feel apart from our personal lives and the cultural things we’re interested in and the sports we watch. It feels like this separate, different thing.
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Culture Interested Lives Personal Politics Sports
I think that if there is a great gift that this [Donald Trump] election gave us, is this sort of sense of vigilance, the sense that we have to remain on guard. We have to support our free press.
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Gift Great Press Sense Support Think
Fiction has this special power. It has a power to clarify, to galvanize, to prophesy, and warn.
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Fiction Prophesy Special
History is not the linear sort of movement toward better and better things.
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Better Linear Movement Thing
Even after he was elected, and even now, it still feels impossible. It felt like we had fallen into this wormhole of history.
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Even Fallen Feel History Impossible Now
The membrane between where we are right now and a very different reality, is so much thinner than we like to think. Things can go back, and things can go to the side, and things can go to places where we might not even have been on guard that they might go.
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Reality Support Thinking
It is part of what makes America great. That tradition of the free press, and also the tradition of this highly competitive market for investigative journalism. We’re seeing, there’s no question, that we’re seeing a renaissance of that.
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Country Journalism Renaissance
The election of Donald Trump is, to me, this very clownish personality with no political experience, who had literally been using fascist slogans in his campaign. It had seemed so impossible.
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Campaign Personality Political

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